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[ntbirdy]

I am jobless at this moment and planning to open a SMALL cafe which is around 200 square feet only, i.e. maximum 8-10 client in the shop. The supply of good quality cake is ready. In additional, I want to provide good quality coffee with fresh beans. I guess the output is 30 cups of espresso per hours during peak hour (may be only 1-2 hour per day). I have experience of making espresso with bottomless portafilter in my home.

My budget for coffee machine and grinder is HK$80,000. Of course, I want to save as much money as I can because I have to pay other fee.

Which coffee machine should I choose? My cafe is really small!
1. Leva 2
2. EXPOBAR MARKUS "3 BOILERS"
3. La Marzocco GS3

How about grinder? How many do I need and which model? Should I choose conical / flat burr? How about the below?
1. Eureka Lusso 75mm flat burr grinder
2. Eureka Mondial 65mm manual grinder
3. Eureka Lusso 68mm conical burr grinder
4. Compak K-10 Conic
5. Compak K-8
6. Compak K-6 Prof. Barista.

Where can I get FRESH coffee beans (roasted within 2 days)? STS, fresh or coffee assembly?

[ntbirdy]

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1. Leva 2
2. EXPOBAR MARKUS "3 BOILERS"
3. La Marzocco GS3

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1. Eureka Lusso 75mm flat burr grinder
2. Eureka Mondial 65mm manual grinder
3. Eureka Lusso 68mm conical burr grinder
4. Compak K-10 Conic
5. Compak K-8
6. Compak K-6 Prof. Barista.

??????? TS, fresh or coffee assembly?

[vodkangump]

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GS3 ? Grinder 80K ??????
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[Icarus]

[bib]

Sorry to ask with NO HARM :
Selling good machines or good coffee ?
80k should be enough for GS3 + one of the grinder on list I guest.
I don't know much about machines, sorry
Actually, sorry to ask you know the advantage of GS3 ?? I don't .
**one of best prosumer semi auto espresso machines; why people need it ?
If think to use one blend in the future, PID Linear is better for commercial.
If use many difference blends and sells little quantity -
keep fresh * reasonable thinking - throw a lot to the trash or selling a lot of different blends. your post seems use one blend.
But 2 days not enough, 5days -max 9or 10days are in best condition for espresso. 2 days with a lot of CO2 on the cup.
not fresh * no problem, selling good machines putting on the corner.
Good coffee for commercial, PID Linear + SuperJolly(enough) + fresh and better blend of coffee beans.
*sorry I don't know much about machines ; I just know I want a good cup of ristretto when I am in a cafe where uses good coffee blend with good enough equipments.
I think Fresh is the best choice of your supply list here.
I don't know the following things are good tools or bad, please teach:
speedster, robur380V, K30, Nino, ProM, [Cimbali-Max grinder, Junior espresso machine].
Thanks

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[ntbirdy]

[bib]

ntbirdy,
you ride a birdy ??

em, if 2nd hand machine in good recondition , I think it may suitable for your business, ask the supplier, Machines on your list are Prosumer's toys.
I seen this in a cafe also a good choice for you NEW machine 50% GS3 price, GS3 better than this DOUBLE ? :
http://www.elektrasrl.com/sixties_1gr_lv.php
Powerful enough, Price reasonable, good build commercial standard.
there are only few brands make dual boiler and for a not very busy cafe one single big boiler espresso machine, more or less very enough.
Espresso Italiano Standard Single :
following list you should check for ..

Today the Italian Espresso National Institute is one of the most important associations in the coffee market. It groups espresso-equipment producers and roasters which develop overall �700M revenues.

Each member company which complies with the certification requirements has the right to use the mark "Espresso Italiano Certificato".

? Altogusto S.p.a.
? Brasilia S.p.a.
? C.M.A. S.p.a.
? C.S. Macchine per Caffè S.r.l.
? Caffè Cagliari S.p.a.
? Caffen S.r.l.
? Casadio Unipersonale S.r.l. (ora Gruppo Cimbali)
? Ceado S.r.l.
? Cesare Trucillo S.p.a.
? Co.Ind (Coop Industria) Soc.coop.
? Compak Coffee Grinders S.a.
? Conti Valerio S.r.l.
? Costadoro S.p.a.
? El Mundo S.p.a.
? Essse Caffè S.p.a.
? F.A.C. S.p.a.
? G. Vescovi S.p.a.
? G.I.FI.ZE S.p.a.
? Gruppo Cimbali S.p.a.
? Guglielmo S.p.a.
? Jesi Caffè S.r.l.
? Jolly Caffè S.p.a.
? La Genovese S.a.s.
? La Marzocco S.r.l.
? La Spaziale S.p.a.
? Magazzini del Caffè S.p.a.
? Mazzer Luigi S.r.l.
? Milani S.p.a.
? Nuova Simonelli S.p.a.
? Paladini S.r.l. (Mokarico, Mingo)
? Rancilio Macchine per Caffè S.p.a.
? S.T.A. Impianti S.r.l.
? Torrefazione Caffè Krifi S.p.a.
? Torrefazione Paranà S.r.l.
? Torrefazione Parenti S.p.a.
? Torrefazione S. Salvador S.r.l.
? Torrefazione Saturno S.r.l.
? Tuttoespresso S.p.a.
? Vibiemme S.p.a.
? Water & More Italia S.r.l.
? Wega S.r.l.
? Zicaffè S.p.a.
? Zoppas Industries - IRCA S.p.a.