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kckc
註冊時間: 2006-03-15
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 發表於: 星期三 三月 28, 2007 12:04 pm 文章主題: |
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By the way,
if you are drinking Long Black, there are actually two ways to brew.
1. a 180cc espresso in 25sec.
2. 30cc normal espresso in 25sec, then dilute it with 150cc water.
The first one is usually defined as Cafe Crema.
The second one is Americano.
Both of them are called long black though. 
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landy
註冊時間: 2006-03-12
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adachi_2003
註冊時間: 2007-03-27
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| 發表於: 星期三 三月 28, 2007 3:38 pm 文章主題: |
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| kckc 寫到: | By the way,
if you are drinking Long Black, there are actually two ways to brew.
1. a 180cc espresso in 25sec.
2. 30cc normal espresso in 25sec, then dilute it with 150cc water.
The first one is usually defined as Cafe Crema.
The second one is Americano.
Both of them are called long black though. |
Wahhh. That part is interesting and it is the first time I know how to make an americano. If I buy take-away from starbucks or Pacific coffee I usually order americano but never know how that make it. Great. Thx kckc.
But another problem come. By XP4050 is a single button machine. That mean I can only use default cc of water or user-defined cc of water. Now I know why people like 4020 more than 4050 lar...... |
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adachi_2003
註冊時間: 2007-03-27
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| 發表於: 星期三 三月 28, 2007 3:41 pm 文章主題: |
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Hi Landy,
First time to say hi to you. "Hi...nice to meet you" !
And thanks for your info and I just check you still have 7 temper in the stock. Will make an appointment with you once I can get back from the airport project. See you later.
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nelf
註冊時間: 2006-11-21
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| 發表於: 星期三 三月 28, 2007 7:09 pm 文章主題: |
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| adachi_2003 寫到: | | kckc 寫到: | By the way,
if you are drinking Long Black, there are actually two ways to brew.
1. a 180cc espresso in 25sec.
2. 30cc normal espresso in 25sec, then dilute it with 150cc water.
The first one is usually defined as Cafe Crema.
The second one is Americano.
Both of them are called long black though. |
Wahhh. That part is interesting and it is the first time I know how to make an americano. If I buy take-away from starbucks or Pacific coffee I usually order americano but never know how that make it. Great. Thx kckc.
But another problem come. By XP4050 is a single button machine. That mean I can only use default cc of water or user-defined cc of water. Now I know why people like 4020 more than 4050 lar...... |
i think you can reset the amounts of water.. some of the people here are using the 4050.. they should know how to do it..
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註冊時間: 2006-03-11
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| adachi_2003 寫到: | Oh...thanks for all your guys's comment. Give me some more time and I can revise my standard.
BTW
1. Where can I find the temper which fit for my XP4050? Be honest the original plastic temper is not really good. Can I buy it from "Fresh Coffee Beans and Tea House"?
2. So which fresh coffee bean that the taste is similar to long black or better than long black? Coz I drink black coffee only. I can see a lot from hkcoffee main page but choice are really a lot. Difficult to choose...
Most of the time I am working at airport. So may find some available slot and go to North point. Yes I will........
Thx
adachi |
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adachi_2003
註冊時間: 2007-03-27
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Agree. And that's why easy to buy is a good selling point for those coffee-making beginner.
I didn't try the blend. Just tried the "Espresso" and "Italian Roast" from starbucks only. Which bean that is not too sour (better not sour) can recommended to me? I drink black all the time.
Beside, kckc mentioned that "espresso in 25sec" twice. I don't think my XP4050 finish a standard volume of coffee with 25sec. (Should be less...than 20 secs)
So, if 25sec is the best, do I need to ??? If yes, how? Please advise.
Thx
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harry
註冊時間: 2006-09-10
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| adachi_2003 寫到: | Agree. And that's why easy to buy is a good selling point for those coffee-making beginner.
I didn't try the blend. Just tried the "Espresso" and "Italian Roast" from starbucks only. Which bean that is not too sour (better not sour) can recommended to me? I drink black all the time.
Beside, kckc mentioned that "espresso in 25sec" twice. I don't think my XP4050 finish a standard volume of coffee with 25sec. (Should be less...than 20 secs)
So, if 25sec is the best, do I need to ??? If yes, how? Please advise.
Thx
adachi |
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kckc
註冊時間: 2006-03-15
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| 發表於: 星期五 三月 30, 2007 10:51 am 文章主題: |
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| adachi_2003 寫到: | Agree. And that's why easy to buy is a good selling point for those coffee-making beginner.
I didn't try the blend. Just tried the "Espresso" and "Italian Roast" from starbucks only. Which bean that is not too sour (better not sour) can recommended to me? I drink black all the time.
Beside, kckc mentioned that "espresso in 25sec" twice. I don't think my XP4050 finish a standard volume of coffee with 25sec. (Should be less...than 20 secs)
So, if 25sec is the best, do I need to ??? If yes, how? Please advise.
Thx
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hi,
yes, but not a must.
25sec -30sec is a normal range for espresso extraction time.
traditionally, a single espresso is extracted in 25sec, and 30cc volume.
no, you don't need to ??, you should adjust your grinder a click finer.
rule of thumb,
if the espresso extracts out too fast(less than 25sec), adjust the grinder finer or lower the amount of coffee you put in.
if the espresso extracts out too slow(more than 30sec), adjust the grinder coarser or up the amount of coffee you put in.(aka dosage)
both the dosage and the finess of the ground coffee affect your extraction speed, the grind affect more and make a bigger impact, so one should adjust the grinder first, than the dosage.
em,,, further more, after getting the grind right one should experiment the dosage to get the desire flavour. the dosage is a way to control the next point.
the time from the pump starts to the first drop appears(aka dwell time) is very critical, it affects the flavour very much.
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chi0001
註冊時間: 2006-09-11
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| 發表於: 星期五 三月 30, 2007 4:54 pm 文章主題: |
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| kckc 寫到: | hi,
yes, but not a must.
25sec -30sec is a normal range for espresso extraction time.
traditionally, a single espresso is extracted in 25sec, and 30cc volume.
if the espresso extracts out too fast(less than 25sec), adjust the grinder finer or lower the amount of coffee you put in.
if the espresso extracts out too slow(more than 30sec), adjust the grinder coarser or up the amount of coffee you put in.(aka dosage)
both the dosage and the finess of the ground coffee affect your extraction speed, the grind affect more and make a bigger impact, so one should adjust the grinder first, than the dosage.
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kckc
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| chi0001 寫到: | | kckc 寫到: | hi,
yes, but not a must.
25sec -30sec is a normal range for espresso extraction time.
traditionally, a single espresso is extracted in 25sec, and 30cc volume.
if the espresso extracts out too fast(less than 25sec), adjust the grinder finer or lower the amount of coffee you put in.
if the espresso extracts out too slow(more than 30sec), adjust the grinder coarser or up the amount of coffee you put in.(aka dosage)
both the dosage and the finess of the ground coffee affect your extraction speed, the grind affect more and make a bigger impact, so one should adjust the grinder first, than the dosage.
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25 - 30 sec is normal range, why? |
any coffee more or less than 25-30sec don't seems balance, or if balance, it lacks body.
i don't know why
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seiyapicasso
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