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tried from bib apartment.

3. you can buy any other type that equal the size of eric's design, you can buy the special screw from there http://www.swagelok.com. price around hk$60 ~ 90.


Eric mentioned that the thermocouple adaptor is custom made by Swagelok.
Did you request Swagelok to quote for Eric's design. Please reserve one for me if you are ordering from Swagelok.

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i am no rich, hk$10.00 is more suitable for me.
order by yourself, p/n ss-200-1-0221bt.
you can buy any kind of digital probe thermometer in ssp, after buying the thermometer, measure the probe size, such as 5/32", then go to reclamation street, buy in tube size 5/32" in. , outter connect m6 x 6 or 7mm. must must remember, if measure 1/8", must must buy 1/8" in. in tube. many brands on the reclamation street, no only swaglok ar.
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Ah Shing, ???/www.swagelok.com. ?o??screw.. ???????????

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??????????????????????HX??Cooling flush timing & volumn?????????brewing temperature????
??????????boiler pressure???????Cooling flush timing???
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???????HX???E61?espresso machine???
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Simon??
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Rotary pump + double boiler + PID????
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PivmkXWivP8


Dear Pillowpaky,

Is the machine in the video yours.
It seems water was running out from the screw hole of the E61 grouphead.
By this method, only static (no loading) temperature can be measured.
When the machine is loaded (with coffee), water would run out much slower (i.e. water stay longer in the heat exchanger to be heated up ) and the brewing temperature (when water meet the coffee) would be higher.

Eric's adaptor make measuring of dynamic temperature possible. As the thermocouple is positioned close to the coffee, the measured temperature is closed to the actual brewing temperature.

There is cheaper method to measure the brewing temperature but less convenient.
Somebody just tie a thermo bead to the screw of the shower screen.

Just my 2 cents.


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Rotary pump + double boiler + PID????


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?expobar???????????
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pillowpaky 寫到:
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Dear Pillowpaky,

Is the machine in the video yours.
It seems water was running out from the screw hole of the E61 grouphead.
By this method, only static (no loading) temperature can be measured.
When the machine is loaded (with coffee), water would run out much slower (i.e. water stay longer in the heat exchanger to be heated up ) and the brewing temperature (when water meet the coffee) would be higher.

Eric's adaptor make measuring of dynamic temperature possible. As the thermocouple is positioned close to the coffee, the measured temperature is closed to the actual brewing temperature.

There is cheaper method to measure the brewing temperature but less convenient.
Somebody just tie a thermo bead to the screw of the shower screen.

Just my 2 cents.


SimonCHAN


Simon?
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???????????????PID??????????
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When the machine is loaded (with coffee), water would run out much slower (i.e. water stay longer in the heat exchanger to be heated up ) and the brewing temperature (when water meet the coffee) would be higher.
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Hi! pillowpaky,

?????HX?? brewing ??boiler refill water o????????????????espresso?steam milk?????????espresso o????tank?thermosyphon?brew head?HX?refill??o?cycling time??????????water dispenser?????
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??pillowpaky ?point ??hx ?d ??, ???e61 brewing ???cooling flush, cooling flush ??????, ??cooling flush ?6sec, brewing temperature 200 degree f, ??????cooling flush ?6sec, brewing temperature ??200 degree f, ??200, ????keep 2x ?. ??????strem boiler pressure ??, ?????strem boiler ?????. la spaziale ??????, ???????, ????.
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Hi Shing,

?????HX???check???idle time?(??3mins, 5mins & after 10 mins)o??????????????brewing ?2x?????????????3,4?tamp?o?portafilter???shots?Cooling flush????????o??????Flush & Go? Flush & Wait (for rebounce time) method????????????idle time???????water dancing sound?????????????o??????????????Erics Thermocouple Device ????????

????????boiler?D?Shing?modify??Expobar o?brew boiler PID?????fit??

Btw,??12?ProAc??? re run-in??
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Designer 寫到:
.....????Erics Thermocouple Device ????????

pillowpaky point 2, eric's thermocouple device, or buy hk$10.00 screw, only for reference.
$2.00 screw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJqHW3_xOQg
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