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andy



註冊時間: 2008-07-02
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發表發表於: 星期日 二月 14, 2010 6:00 pm    文章主題: ??NUOVA SIMONELLI OSCAR ?? 引言回覆

HI!!
?????????????????,????????,
????????,???oscar!!
???????????! Rolling Eyes
?????landy??????,?????????,????????!
??oscar??????ar,??????,???'mignon'?? Question
???????? THANKS!!!!
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expobar?
oscar???????????
??????compak?
????mignon
?????compak??d
??????mignon
??mignon?????
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LittleCup



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發表發表於: 星期日 二月 14, 2010 8:39 pm    文章主題: Re: ??NUOVA SIMONELLI OSCAR ?? 引言回覆

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HI!!
?????????????????,????????,
????????,???oscar!!

???????????! Rolling Eyes
?????landy??????,?????????,????????!
??oscar??????ar,??????,???'mignon'?? Question
???????? THANKS!!!!
andy

Which type of coffee would you like to produce most of the time? Espresso? Do you need milk steaming function?

???'mignon' is good, in a sense that it's small in size, cost effective, and is capable of producing even coffee grounds.
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expobar?
oscar???????????
??????compak?
????mignon
?????compak??d
??????mignon
??mignon?????


??c???!!
??expobor????,??????? love
?????!!
?????????
????????50cmX45cm??,?????!
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發表發表於: 星期一 二月 15, 2010 10:37 am    文章主題: Re: ??NUOVA SIMONELLI OSCAR ?? 引言回覆

LittleCup 寫到:
type of coffee would you like to produce most of the time? Espresso? Do you need milk steaming function?

???'mignon' is good, in a sense that it's small in size, cost effective, and is capable of producing even coffee grounds.

HI..??!
???????,??????????! Smile
???Espresso,Latte?
?????expobar??????????????????????
???????????
D??????d?????
THANKS!!
andy
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sang6080 寫到:
expobar?
oscar???????????
??????compak?
????mignon
?????compak??d
??????mignon
??mignon?????


??c???!!
??expobor????,??????? love
?????!!
?????????
????????50cmX45cm??,?????!
THANKS!!
andy



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expobar???????????

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????temp?????????
?????????????
leva 1??BOILER
leva 2??BOILERS
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?????leva1?mignon
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註冊時間: 2009-01-30
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發表發表於: 星期一 二月 15, 2010 2:27 pm    文章主題: Re: ??NUOVA SIMONELLI OSCAR ?? 引言回覆

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LittleCup 寫到:
type of coffee would you like to produce most of the time? Espresso? Do you need milk steaming function?

???'mignon' is good, in a sense that it's small in size, cost effective, and is capable of producing even coffee grounds.

HI..??!
???????,??????????! Smile
???Espresso,Latte?
?????expobar??????????????????????
???????????
D??????d?????
THANKS!!
andy

Hi Andy,

For making cafe latte you need good espresso brewing and good milk steaming. So this means you need 3 functions: 1) a good coffee grinder; 2) a coffee machine with a reasonable amount of stability in water temperature when brewing espresso; 3) a good milk frothing device (which can be the coffee machine itself most of the time).

Mignon is very good for making espresso (but may not be very good if you want to switch from espresso to drip coffee from time to time) because it has a very easy-to-use grinder coarseness setting. Since your main objective is to make espresso and cafe latte, Mignon is probably good enough. You may buy one more manual grinder (about HKD 3xx) for making french press or some other types of coffee that requires coarser grinds, so this may cover most of your coffee making needs from the coffee grinding perspective.

I'm also a user of Expobar (mine is Expobar Office Leva 2 with vibration pump). From my own experience I find Expobar very easy to use, and I'm so glad I made the purchase. The time required to warm up the machine before the first espresso shot is about 20-21 mins (from room temperature to 94 deg C). This 20 mins may seem quite a bit of time when compared to my Krups machine I used before, but in fact I don't need to do anything except waiting (whereas for my Krups I need to pull at least 3 shots, with waiting time between each shot, before I can pull the first shot of espresso). So I don't feel anything inconvenient for this 20 mins of waiting.

I'm not familiar with Oscar so I can't give you any relevant comments. But I think Expobar is definitely a brand that you should pay atttention to, or maybe you can go to fresh coffee to see the actual machine yourself to get a better understanding.

Besides Expobar, I think the following brands may also fulfil your current requirement: Gaggia (Classic, Baby, etc), Rancilio Silvia, Krups 4020, etc. As you have already owned a coffee machine before, you probably don't need to rush, and spend more time to know more about the pros and cons and cost of these alternatives before the upgrade.

You haven't mentioned how many cups of cafe latte you need to make each time. If you just need to make one, Gaggia (Classic, Baby, etc), Rancilio Silvia, Krups 4020 should all be able to meet your needs. But if you want to make two or more every time, you may need a machine with more steaming power.

Steaming power is something that does not come with lower price machines. You may need to spend more than HKD 6,000-7,000 for a machine with good enough steaming power for more than 2 cups of cafe latte.

If you really concern about the quality of espresso, you may want to look at the stability of water temperature during espresso brewing, and probably want to change the temperature for the brewing. For this requirement, you don't have cheap options except looking at the higher end machines.

Hope this helps.
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andy



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????? "?????????The Best",(????????!)
?Budget?$12000??,????Leva1?Mignon,(???????!)

????????Landy??,????????!! Embarassed
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oscar ?ok?

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oscar ?ok?

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expobar pulsar ?????
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??c???!!!

???Expocar pulsar???Oscar??(?????)
?????Leva1,????????!!Embarassed
???c??Eureka Mondial??????!
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HI!!???!
????vibration pump?rotary pump
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?????,???1000?! Embarassed
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HI!!???!
????vibration pump?rotary pump
??????! Rolling Eyes
?????,???1000?! Embarassed


???(vibration pump)????, ?????????, ??????(????)???, ?????brewing, ?????????????, ??????嘅??, ???Native Preinfusion ???

???(rotary pump), ????????????????, ???????, ?????????, ???????
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發表發表於: 星期一 三月 22, 2010 5:53 am    文章主題: 引言回覆

sang6080 寫到:

?????????????
expobar???????????
???????????????
????temp?????????
?????????????
leva 1??BOILER
leva 2??BOILERS
????leva1???
?????leva1?mignon
???????

Leva 1 ???????????? Leva 1 ?????????,??????????
Leva 2 ? twin gauges for boiler pressure & brew pressure.

thanks Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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