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[james007]

I am a new comer. Hi all there.

is anyone use/try ISOMAC TEA before? is it good?

I want use in a small cafe. is it ok?

[shing]

it is a very good machine.
a friend of mind, designer, he can tell you all about the question of isomac.
you can ask paul about this machine, he is from just java, he is a nice guy.

[james007]

Thx!

I saw some review from coffee greek too.

It most a positive review but need add water many times.

I wonder this machine can still ok after pull many shot because it got a small boiler(1.4L) only.

how about compare with Rancilio S1 tank version and La Spaziale S1?

for sure, they are more expensive.

P.S. I think I will try to go to Paul on Mon ^^

[shing]

cant compare Rancilio S1 tank vs La Spaziale S1 vivaldi, rancilio s1 is heat exchange machine, spaziale s1 is double boiler.
1. temperature. spaziale s1 computer control, rancilio s1 pressure control, so spaziale s1 is very very stable.
2. pressure. rancilio s1 tank version is vibrate pump, use o ring for over pressure valve, spaziale s1 is rotarty pump.

after modified rancilio s1 tank, temperature very stable, even no syphon system, very surprise because s1 tank is vibrate pump, rancilio epoca s1 and e1 both are rotarty pump, but vibrate pump taste better than s1 without tank and e1.

[Designer]

Most Isomac machines are the same internally. Cooling flush (draw the �too� hot water out) is always needed for obtaining good brewing temperature prior to making shots. This consumes much more water than other dual boilers machines especially if the boiler pressure is set high. Plumb-in modification is needed for commercial use.
Pulling some continuing shots w/. this machine should not be a problem but you may need to refill the water tank frequently.

[james007]

is it somthing like this :




I found in this website:

http://www.rimpo.org/chas/TeaPlumbing.html

but is it able to buy in Hong kong or any better stuff?

[bib]

[kckc]

[james007]

FIRST, thanks for many people give me suggestions, but I still thinking of:

ISOMAC TEA vs Rancilio S1

1. TEA cheaper $12000 and S1 need $20000

I can save extra $8000 for buy Mazzer Super Jolly + water filter + some accessories (from money point of view)

2. shipping problem: TEA is lighter aroung 21KG but S1 around 39KG

I need to ship back to China because I am going to open a cafe in China.

I think I can pick up "Tea" by myself but not S1.

3. I plan upgrade to two group when I earn extra $30000-40000 and take one group machine for outdoor small cafe. I don't want spend money at this time.

But I really concern about the quality, is S1 better than TEA base on the taste? I try slivia b4 and the quality is great. I think S1 is great too.

and what the different between the rotary pump vs vibe pump?

and La is 53mm portafilter, is make any different between 53mm vs 58mm?

???????

[kckc]

[james007]

Paul not sell ISOMAC TEA anymore.

I talk with his stuff also a very nice guys too.

I think I better buy in China because of the after-sales service porblem.

I plan to buy La spaziale seem double boiler more easlier to manage.

how about grinder? in China they got ?/???only

I want buy Mazzer Super Jolly x 1 or Rancilio Rocky x 2

like Cafe Vergnano 1882, they use one for espresso beans and one for Cappuccino Beans.

is grinder not easy to break down and no need to consider the after-sales problem?

[bib]

[james007]

what is CHinese on Everpure MC filter? I havn't heard this b4.


no roaster like "fresh" in my area. got one supplier they have own Mill. ship to my area once for two week.

already the best in my area base on the fresh standard.
I talk with some Chinese Barista and they said ok too.

but the problem is they start to become the biggest supplier in my area,
I worried all cafe become the same taste later on. ha ha

maybe try to start learn roast coffee bean by myself.

[bib]

[kckc]